R1200 RT vs TT1200 SE

[David.]

Imitation is the best form of flattery.

[guest2360]

Imitation is the best form of flattery.

Probably not when it pops out as a TT.

[David.]

"From the cockpit, the Triumph appears to have been heavily influenced by the outgoing model*.

The twin dial instruments are scarily close in design to the older model BMW as is the headlight cluster and general styling, minus the sticky out cylinders, of course."

* The outgoing model being the TC RT.

[BMjoe64]

So,in summary, while Triumph were busy copying the outgoing RT, BMW were busy developing a new liquid cooled model, thus maintaining the gap.


I think the TT is a good bike with a great engine but heavy, and does not carry it's weight well at low speed.


My best riding buddy tested the outgoing RT v TT extensively and ended up with the TT. He says he is not a fan of the boxer engine, but loves having a stint on my RT LC. He only gets one however when he is on his Street Triple, which I like to have a run on, but not his TT which just does not give me the urge to ride it.


Neither of us bought brand new and the TT gave him more for his budget and decided against the outgoing RT in favour of the TT, whereas I could stretch a bit further due to a better trade in deal for my previous bike and could afford a recall 2014 liquid cooled.


I think all the reports/reviews suggest that the TT came close to the outgoing RT but has been left in the dust by the LC.
So if you can meet the cost and like the boxer...it's a no brainer.

[David.]

He says he is not a fan of the boxer engine, but loves having a stint on my RT LC.

Does that suggest that the LC engine has lost some of it's "Boxer Twin" character & is more free revving.

I think all the reports/reviews suggest that the TT came close to the outgoing RT but has been left in the dust by the LC.

That's probably the reason why I'd look at a TT if I was to replace my TC RT, rather than the LC RT, I like the more Retro Styling etc.

[BMjoe64]

Does that suggest that the LC engine has lost some of it's "Boxer Twin" character & is more free revving.

Err, no, more likely just that he is a bit envious that he has a TT and not the LC RT.

[richardbd]

Nice uncluttered pictures David. They do give good view of what the bikes actually look like. My own judgement in order of preference is as follows. 1st and best by a country mile, Twincam RT. 2nd Triumph Trophy althought the fairing lower section and section where it joins the upper looks a bit "after market" to me. Last I'm afraid is the WC RT. The fairing looks unfinished like someone forgot about the lower section, but knowing BMW they'll probably fill the gap in after a year or two.

Try riding all three, not just looking at them - then you'll discover you got them in exactly the wrong order!


:alas: :alas: :alas:

[richardbd]

To paraphrase Steve Redgrave...


If I ever consider riding a gold-coloured bike, RT or otherwise, you have my permission to shoot me!


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[Troppo]

I owned an Explorer (same engine).


Quite top heavy, as the engine is tall, and mounted high in the frame.


The RT eats it.  MUCH better bike.

[BMjoe64]

Nice uncluttered pictures David. They do give good view of what the bikes actually look like. My own judgement in order of preference is as follows. 1st and best by a country mile, Twincam RT. 2nd Triumph Trophy althought the fairing lower section and section where it joins the upper looks a bit "after market" to me. Last I'm afraid is the WC RT. The fairing looks unfinished like someone forgot about the lower section, but knowing BMW they'll probably fill the gap in after a year or two.

If I had bought last 6 or 7 bikes based on looks then I would not have bought the ones I did. It's about the ride, not the looks.

[guest2360]

And then you do buy the best looking one.

[BMjoe64]

And then you do buy the best looking one.

Well I would agree that I have bought the best looking RT (2014 LC) but there are better looking tourers out there, just that they don't ride anywhere near as good as the RT LC. 

[David.]

Well I would agree that I have bought the best looking RT (2014 LC) but there are better looking tourers out there.

Which other Tourers would you suggest are better looking than the current LC RT.

[BMjoe64]

Which other Tourers would you suggest are better looking than the current LC RT.

Most of the bunch, eg.,GTR, FJR, K1600, Guzzi Norge , Pan and even the TT1200  all have better lines than ANY  RT of recent times, not just the LC.


The fact that the boxer engine has cylinders which stick out the side doesn't help creation of  aesthetic smooth lines, but as my wife often reminds me, looks are not everything.





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[crawfordjohn]

Should've gone to spec savers!