Dash cams

[Brian Mac]

Hi Guys


Back to using my bike for commuting so thought I might ask the forum about Dash cams. Advantages/disadvantages of a helmet mounted camera or the ones you mount directly onto the bike.


Looking for reccomendations and thoughts.


Cheers Brian

[LAF]

All reports on this one are positive.  I saw them on a bike at the BMW National here in the USA and it is very nice.
I am sure there are others but on ADVRIDER and other forums guys love these.  I am saving my money for one right now.
https://www.innovv.com/innovv-k2

[k900r]

The k2 (above) seems good, but was a little expensive for me. I also felt I didn’t need a rear cam. After trying other solutions in the past I’ve now gone for:
INNOVV C5, hard wired and automatically turns on/off with the bike. It’s fixed underneath the headlight as a bike dashcam on loop recording.
I also have a helmet mounted cam, drift ghost X which I’m really impressed with


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[LAF]

It is a little expensive for sure. 

But you need to cover your 6 also.  Your biggest risk is rear ended at a stop, and it is why I want a rear facing camera also.
I was just going to do the front but your rear end needs covered also so I will save a bit longer for the front/rear cameras.

[Brian Mac]

Thanks for the feedback gang, still undecided about which way to go but this gives me food for thought.

[beemerboy9]

  Your biggest risk is rear ended at a stop, and it is why I want a rear facing camera also.

The biggest risk here in the UK is right-turn violations (or left-turn in the USA). This is where the driver turns across the path of another vehicle without looking.


Forward-facing only should be good enough, but two cameras would obviously be better.

[LAF]

Well it is all in your needs. 

Here in the USA you need your head on a swivel at all times. People are so distracted any longer it is crazy.  Between the cell phones and the infotainment systems in these new cars dashes people are so distracted.
And I wont even go into younger drivers.
Anyway this company makes good stuff so everyone can get what they would like and need.

[bicyclenut]

I have the Innovv K2 on my current RT after having the Innovv K1 on my previous bike. While not perfect the K2 made improvements over the K1 and I’ve been happy with the Innovv brand and support so far. There are other similar systems out there, some at less cost but I think if your purpose is as a dash cam/incident cam, there are a number of reasons why the Innovv or a similar system is needed:

- permanently mounted to bike, not likely to be stolen or removed like a GoPro or left at home because it was forgotten to be mounted.
- powered by the bike, no batteries to run out or remember to charge.
- switched on and off by ignition, install and forget, no need to remember to turn camera on or off, get on a ride and cameras are running.
- front and back views, not everything is going to happen in front of you, with most camera systems in front and rear you get almost a 360° view of what is going on around you.
- a looped video, newest video erases old video so you don’t need to worry about a memory card running out of space or having to switch or format cards. I have a 128GB card and I can easily record a day and more of riding.
- GPS recording to show location of video and speed.

I usually use my GoPro cameras for recording of trips for viewing later but I have found if I don’t have these running I can always pull video from the dash cams for use as the quality of very good.

With the Innovv K2 they added the ability to view and change settings wirelessly from a smartphone which was a big improvement. There is also a mode that can record activity around your bike when parked and if there is movement such as someone trying to sit on it or bumped.

The one negative I have found is the ability to transfer video from the camera DVR to a phone, very nice feature but VERY slow, may work to transfer 1-2 clips from an incident but if you want to transfer more from a trip or to review a ride, best to remove the SD card and transfer via a computer.

Hi Guys


Back to using my bike for commuting so thought I might ask the forum about Dash cams. Advantages/disadvantages of a helmet mounted camera or the ones you mount directly onto the bike.


Looking for reccomendations and thoughts.


Cheers Brian

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[Old-Git]

I'd recommend a Roadhawk Bullet R+ if you can still find one (they have stopped making them) they mount under the headlight and can be hard wired, can be set to override like a car dashcam. HTH

[bushbikie]

Agree that dash cams can be very useful for proving innocence, or guilt, when accidents occur. That can be a two edged sword! Also, from conversations heard around the traps here, no personal experience with the below, but you might want to take the info on board:
In Australia the police have the power to confiscate your dash cam video if they "deem" an enforceable incident has occurred. If you or some of your friends have been, let's say, a bit silly in the past with the right wrist, or overtaken vehicles where it might have been arguably safe, but not legal, to do so, then the police can use that footage for futher enforcement action.
I guess it varies from country to country as to what the police can/can't do with your video footage. Big Brother is alive and well here in Oz![emoji37]

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[Hors Piste]

For those touring in Europe there are also potential pit falls - https://www.which.co.uk/news/2018/08/us ... in-europe/

Written for cars but presumably applicable to any form of "dash cam".