Hi sorry to start my intro with a problem
Hi sorry to start my intro with a problem
06 bmw r1200rt won't start I had bike running with sidestand down put it in gear engine stopped put side stand up etc bike won't start soft click from starter relay that's all battery is good any ideas appreciated
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Re: Hi sorry to start my intro with a problem
From the Rider's Manual, "The engine will switch itself off if you start it with the gearbox in neutral and then engage a gear before retracting the side stand".Darren wrote:I had bike running with side stand down put it in gear engine stopped.
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Yes that's correct but out of gear now sidestand up won't start at all
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Re: Hi sorry to start my intro with a problem
Could be a faulty side stand switch.
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Re: Hi sorry to start my intro with a problem
Does the switch have a plug which can be disconnected (#5) or is it hardwired (#1).
Either way, the switch will look like this on the inside. First, I'd remove the switch to make sure that the plastic peg isn't broken. After that, it would be some electrical tests.
Either way, the switch will look like this on the inside. First, I'd remove the switch to make sure that the plastic peg isn't broken. After that, it would be some electrical tests.
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Re: Hi sorry to start my intro with a problem
Found this thread on BMWMOA, Kick Stand Sensor '07 R1200RT (bmwmoa.org)
A video that shows how to access the side stand switch and how to at your own risk bypass it, https://youtu.be/dHXGGXKYk_E
A video that shows how to access the side stand switch and how to at your own risk bypass it, https://youtu.be/dHXGGXKYk_E
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Re: Hi sorry to start my intro with a problem
Hi I'll try the sidestand switch tomo ref stuck starter I put it it it 3rd and pushed bike few times to see if it would start after no luck but maybe I'll try to run power straight to starter motor as well
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It's such a small but critical component; I've wondered if, while out on tour, is there a temporary fix, like just attaching a wire to bypass the unit?
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This works for a GS, https://youtu.be/kWVEAMZ7jMg I would imagine it's similar for an RT.jackronner wrote:I've wondered if, while out on tour, is there a temporary fix, like just attaching a wire to bypass the unit?
Bridging the two wires at the plug would save butchering the wiring until a new switch can be fitted.
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Re: Hi sorry to start my intro with a problem
Yeah, David, that was my thought - to just complete the circuit in the plug and tape it. Or, if the plug won't come out, just bridge two small adjacent stripped areas up the wire instead of cutting it. Thanks, and Happy Christmas.
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Re: Hi sorry to start my intro with a problem
What about making up a "Jumper" with a couple of "Scotch Lock T Tap" connectors. (to be made up and carried as an emergency fix prior to any switch failure) This could be applied with minimal damage to the original wiring then removed later after a replacement switch (About £65) is obtained.
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Re: Hi sorry to start my intro with a problem
This is the wiring diagram for the side stand switch.
If the Haynes manuals are correct, it's the same for both Hexheads & Camheads.
In this example, bridging the red & brown wires would simulate the side stand in the up position.
If the Haynes manuals are correct, it's the same for both Hexheads & Camheads.
In this example, bridging the red & brown wires would simulate the side stand in the up position.
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Re: Hi sorry to start my intro with a problem
There are two styles of side stand switches, one has wires coming out and the other takes a plug. The latter would be much easier to deal with. Otherwise, fairing panels would have to be removed to trace the wire back to the connector.
An example of a cracked switch and loop bypass at the plug, Side-stand Kill Switch and Field Jumper Repair | BMW Motorcycle Club of Indianapolis (bmwmcindy.org)
(Click on the photos to enlarge).
An example of a cracked switch and loop bypass at the plug, Side-stand Kill Switch and Field Jumper Repair | BMW Motorcycle Club of Indianapolis (bmwmcindy.org)
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