Do the Tubular Handlebars Change the RT Riding Position?

General discussion of the BMW R1200RT/R1250RT
User avatar
David.
Subscriber
Posts: 8342
Joined: Fri Nov 07, 2014 7:29 pm
Location: North Yorkshire
Bike Model and Year: R1200RT (Camhead) 2012
Been liked: 395 times
Great Britain

Re: Do the Tubular Handlebars Change the RT Riding Position?

Post by David. »

Back to the cheap Chinese bar risers.
ret46
Posts: 7
Joined: Wed Nov 16, 2022 1:08 am
Bike Model and Year: R1250RT
Canada

Re: Do the Tubular Handlebars Change the RT Riding Position?

Post by ret46 »

Thank you to everyone that commented and added information. I still am not sure whether to include them in my order though.

RET
User avatar
Doctor T
Posts: 1998
Joined: Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:21 pm
Location: west sussex
Bike Model and Year: 2007 R1200RT SE
Has liked: 1152 times
Been liked: 306 times
Great Britain

Re: Do the Tubular Handlebars Change the RT Riding Position?

Post by Doctor T »

David. wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:02 pm Back to the cheap Chinese bar risers.
Well made but done use the Chinese bolts that come with the raisers
Trust me I am a retired Doctor and lecturer at Oxford University of Structural and Mechanical/Electrical engineering.
"Blessed are the cracked, for they shall let in the light". Groucho Marx
User avatar
David.
Subscriber
Posts: 8342
Joined: Fri Nov 07, 2014 7:29 pm
Location: North Yorkshire
Bike Model and Year: R1200RT (Camhead) 2012
Been liked: 395 times
Great Britain

Re: Do the Tubular Handlebars Change the RT Riding Position?

Post by David. »

Doctor T wrote: Fri Nov 25, 2022 2:15 pmWell made but don't use the Chinese bolts that come with the risers.
Spot the difference, Chinese (top) vs Ilium Works (bottom).

Image

Image
User avatar
David.
Subscriber
Posts: 8342
Joined: Fri Nov 07, 2014 7:29 pm
Location: North Yorkshire
Bike Model and Year: R1200RT (Camhead) 2012
Been liked: 395 times
Great Britain

Re: Do the Tubular Handlebars Change the RT Riding Position?

Post by David. »

ret46 wrote: Fri Nov 25, 2022 1:34 am I still am not sure whether to include them in my order though.
ret46 wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 1:29 am I would love 'higher and wider' as I am coming from an adventure bike and really like the upright seating they provide.
How about the standard cast bars and a pair of these, https://www.shopbmwmotorcycle.com/produ ... bar-risers

"44.5mm Taller and 50mm Wider (compared to original position), these are the true measurements taken at the wrist position."

Image
BoB21
Posts: 845
Joined: Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:38 am
Bike Model and Year: 2017
Has liked: 133 times
Been liked: 69 times
Great Britain

Re: Do the Tubular Handlebars Change the RT Riding Position?

Post by BoB21 »

Just been playing on configurator and when you select tubular handlebars the image shows grips in same position as standard bars from all angles.
Appreciate only for illustration but pretty acurate on other aspects.Enjoy your morning David :-D looking at what could be.
User avatar
David.
Subscriber
Posts: 8342
Joined: Fri Nov 07, 2014 7:29 pm
Location: North Yorkshire
Bike Model and Year: R1200RT (Camhead) 2012
Been liked: 395 times
Great Britain

Re: Do the Tubular Handlebars Change the RT Riding Position?

Post by David. »

Image

Image

Left click on images to enlarge.

I agree with Darren (BoB21), looking at the bars in relation to the mirrors and the reservoirs either side of the TFT screen, they appear to be in the same positions.
BoB21
Posts: 845
Joined: Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:38 am
Bike Model and Year: 2017
Has liked: 133 times
Been liked: 69 times
Great Britain

Re: Do the Tubular Handlebars Change the RT Riding Position?

Post by BoB21 »

Think the bar end weight might be a fraction shorter but only difference from overhead and 360 views that i could see. Tempted David? :thumb:
User avatar
David.
Subscriber
Posts: 8342
Joined: Fri Nov 07, 2014 7:29 pm
Location: North Yorkshire
Bike Model and Year: R1200RT (Camhead) 2012
Been liked: 395 times
Great Britain

Re: Do the Tubular Handlebars Change the RT Riding Position?

Post by David. »

Think you could be right Darren, look at the bar end in relationship with the ball end of the clutch & brake levers. Perhaps the tubular bars need less end weight which would seem practical.

But when comparing the end of the grips, they look the same in relation to where the clutch & brake levers are notched to break in a fall. Making the grips the same width apart.
simbo
Subscriber
Posts: 1480
Joined: Fri Sep 16, 2016 10:33 pm
Location: Greater Manchester
Bike Model and Year: RT 2011
Has liked: 81 times
Been liked: 147 times
Great Britain

Re: Do the Tubular Handlebars Change the RT Riding Position?

Post by simbo »

BoB21 wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 5:21 pm Tempted David? :thumb:
He's too tight :lol:
The GS 'is' the better bike :-)
User avatar
Doctor T
Posts: 1998
Joined: Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:21 pm
Location: west sussex
Bike Model and Year: 2007 R1200RT SE
Has liked: 1152 times
Been liked: 306 times
Great Britain

Re: Do the Tubular Handlebars Change the RT Riding Position?

Post by Doctor T »

With the tubular bars you have a wider scope of fitting aftermarket bars and raisers
Trust me I am a retired Doctor and lecturer at Oxford University of Structural and Mechanical/Electrical engineering.
"Blessed are the cracked, for they shall let in the light". Groucho Marx
User avatar
David.
Subscriber
Posts: 8342
Joined: Fri Nov 07, 2014 7:29 pm
Location: North Yorkshire
Bike Model and Year: R1200RT (Camhead) 2012
Been liked: 395 times
Great Britain

Re: Do the Tubular Handlebars Change the RT Riding Position?

Post by David. »

Another reason folks may fit the tubular bars is, it'll be easier to add "Farkles".
ret46
Posts: 7
Joined: Wed Nov 16, 2022 1:08 am
Bike Model and Year: R1250RT
Canada

Re: Do the Tubular Handlebars Change the RT Riding Position?

Post by ret46 »

Has anyone found risers that work on a R1250RT with tubular handlebars? All the searches l have completed only show risers for the 'standard' handlebars. I guess risers that fit the GS would work, but maybe not. I wonder how much the bars can be lifted without having to modify brake lines and/or electrical wiring?

RET
User avatar
David.
Subscriber
Posts: 8342
Joined: Fri Nov 07, 2014 7:29 pm
Location: North Yorkshire
Bike Model and Year: R1200RT (Camhead) 2012
Been liked: 395 times
Great Britain

Re: Do the Tubular Handlebars Change the RT Riding Position?

Post by David. »

ret46 wrote: Tue Dec 06, 2022 12:41 am Has anyone found risers that work on a R1250RT with tubular handlebars.
Found this thread on BMWLT, https://www.bmwlt.com/threads/2021-r125 ... rk.192524/

This bike is fitted with bar risers from VMT, https://voigt-mt.de/BMW-R-1250-RT-21_1

Image
ret46 wrote: Tue Dec 06, 2022 12:41 am I wonder how much the bars can be lifted without having to modify brake lines and/or electrical wiring.
From the photo, they look like this version, https://voigt-mt.de/Handlebar-risers-wi ... -handlebar which have an offset 30mm up and 24mm closer.

"No modification to the vehicle necessary"

Image
ret46
Posts: 7
Joined: Wed Nov 16, 2022 1:08 am
Bike Model and Year: R1250RT
Canada

Re: Do the Tubular Handlebars Change the RT Riding Position?

Post by ret46 »

Wow thank you David as I did not find the risers in my searches!! I just updated my order with the dealer for my 2023 build and added the tubular handlebars. To be honest I actually prefer the look of the tubular 'bars and if down road I need/want risers it is much easier and better looking then standard handlebar risers.

Thanks to everyone again,
RET
Post Reply