2014 R1200RTP Clutch Replacement

Having Problems with your BMW R1200RT/R1250RT? or have some Maintenance and Service questions?
Post Reply
pathan2
Posts: 9
Joined: Sat Oct 07, 2023 7:43 pm
Bike Model and Year: 2014 BMW R1200RTP
Been liked: 1 time
United States of America

2014 R1200RTP Clutch Replacement

Post by pathan2 »

Hello all;

I purchased my 2014 R1200RTP from a City fleet auction. It was advertised that the clutch was replaced recently; which in my opinion caused the bid to go up higher than should have been. Anyway, I drove the bike a total of 3 or 4 times and then it lost power (engine sounded good) and smoke coming out of the transmission area.

Before opening it, I file a FOIA request to the city attorney and ascertained all the repair receipts. The documentation showed that the clutch was replaced at about 11K miles and I purchased it at 22K miles. I suspect that the outside repair facility just charged the city loads of money but never replaced the clutch. Can any experience folks here advise me what to look for, lets say, if the work was never done and it has original clutch? adding pictures for you guys.
Attachments
IMG_3663.jpeg
IMG_3663.jpeg (500.12 KiB) Viewed 3040 times
IMG_3664.jpeg
IMG_3664.jpeg (526.45 KiB) Viewed 3040 times
User avatar
David.
Subscriber
Posts: 8342
Joined: Fri Nov 07, 2014 7:29 pm
Location: North Yorkshire
Bike Model and Year: R1200RT (Camhead) 2012
Been liked: 395 times
Great Britain

Re: 2014 R1200RTP Clutch Replacement

Post by David. »

From what I have seen, searching online, the Siebenrock clutch plate is not OEM but an aftermarket replacement.

The BMW OEM clutch plate would have "BMW" and the part number on it.

Coincidently, the number 737 on the clutch photo above are the last 3 digits of the OEM part # on the photo below.

RT Clutch Plate.JPG
RT Clutch Plate.JPG (105.2 KiB) Viewed 3026 times
pathan2
Posts: 9
Joined: Sat Oct 07, 2023 7:43 pm
Bike Model and Year: 2014 BMW R1200RTP
Been liked: 1 time
United States of America

Re: 2014 R1200RTP Clutch Replacement

Post by pathan2 »

I see; that means it was probably rider’s fault for losing clutch at every 11K. He probably was riding half clutch most of the time causing it to run out of friction lot sooner.
User avatar
David.
Subscriber
Posts: 8342
Joined: Fri Nov 07, 2014 7:29 pm
Location: North Yorkshire
Bike Model and Year: R1200RT (Camhead) 2012
Been liked: 395 times
Great Britain

Re: 2014 R1200RTP Clutch Replacement

Post by David. »

RTP clutch's do get hammered by their authority riders.
pathan2
Posts: 9
Joined: Sat Oct 07, 2023 7:43 pm
Bike Model and Year: 2014 BMW R1200RTP
Been liked: 1 time
United States of America

Re: 2014 R1200RTP Clutch Replacement

Post by pathan2 »

This now brings me to the next question; is it wise to change just the clutch plate or should I change the pressure plate and housing as well?

As you may have already figured that this is my first mechanical battle this deep.
User avatar
Stu
Administrator
Posts: 1598
Joined: Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:13 pm
Location: Hull, UK
Bike Model and Year: 2016 R1200RT
Has liked: 559 times
Been liked: 519 times
Great Britain

Re: 2014 R1200RTP Clutch Replacement

Post by Stu »

I would change the lot while you are in there!
StatiK
Posts: 10
Joined: Sat Jul 27, 2024 2:08 am
Bike Model and Year: 2007 R1200RT
United States of America

Re: 2014 R1200RTP Clutch Replacement

Post by StatiK »

Can confirm that police tend to ride the clutches all the time for low speed maneuvering and slow riding in parades and such. According to some guys that I know that do that work, about 10-15k miles is all they usually get, that's even with the wet clutches on the water cooled bikes. I'd just spring for the new clutch and enjoy the confidence that comes with the new clutch.
pathan2
Posts: 9
Joined: Sat Oct 07, 2023 7:43 pm
Bike Model and Year: 2014 BMW R1200RTP
Been liked: 1 time
United States of America

Re: 2014 R1200RTP Clutch Replacement

Post by pathan2 »

Bought a CLA02600 package from beemershop and I’ve all the seals here. Now just need the torque values of all inside bolts. I’m ready to pack the bike back together. Does anyone knows the torque of these bolts?
pathan2
Posts: 9
Joined: Sat Oct 07, 2023 7:43 pm
Bike Model and Year: 2014 BMW R1200RTP
Been liked: 1 time
United States of America

Re: 2014 R1200RTP Clutch Replacement

Post by pathan2 »

Hey fellows;

I have the replacement kit and all the seals. I was trying to find torque values of bolts the secure the clutch housing and flywheel cover in place. I think I will also have to remove weight balancer to replace bottom seal. Any help will be much appreciated.

Regards
pathan2
Posts: 9
Joined: Sat Oct 07, 2023 7:43 pm
Bike Model and Year: 2014 BMW R1200RTP
Been liked: 1 time
United States of America

Re: 2014 R1200RTP Clutch Replacement

Post by pathan2 »

I found following torque values:

Clutch Housing to Crank Shaft: 40Nm then 40 degrees (to replace rear main seal)
Replace all M11X1.5X12.9 with new bolts (must not use old bolts)
Balancing Shaft: M8X70: 10Nm then 90 degrees (replace the seal)
Housing cover M6X20: 12Nm
Gearbox to engine: M6X18: 19Nm
Peek Cover M6X16: 8Nm
Slave Cylinder M6X16: 8Nm

Hope it helps and those who can confirm it please share.
Going on vacation for 3 weeks, when I return, I will pack my bike back up and repaint the fairing. Happing riding fellas...
Post Reply