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Re: Agricultural clunk
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 7:32 pm
by guest2360
Dont think you can compare a gearbox on a bike with one in a car. I'm sure there are tech members who can explain the vital differences.
Re: Agricultural clunk
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2015 9:22 pm
by OrangeOkie
Perhaps it is the nature of the twin opposed engine. Moto Guzzis do the same thing going into first.
Re: Agricultural clunk
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2015 9:55 pm
by richardbd
RTman10 wrote:
Dont think you can compare a gearbox on a bike with one in a car. I'm sure there are tech members who can explain the vital differences.
one has two wheels, one has four.
simples...
:alas: :alas:
Re: Agricultural clunk
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 5:14 pm
by Nkannel1
My 09 RT has the same issue. However I realized that if I roll back just a tad as I shift into first it's smooth as butter. Works eveytime without fail. I also preload the shifter before every upshift as well. Has been this way since new and now has 98K.
Re: Agricultural clunk
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 5:26 pm
by guest2360
That is an impressive mileage.
Have you had any serious issues with anything?
Re: Agricultural clunk
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 10:11 pm
by Steve F
OrangeOkie wrote:
Perhaps it is the nature of the twin opposed engine. Moto Guzzis do the same thing going into first.
Nah, my K13GT Beemer was equally clunky in the low gears, and that was an in-line 4 cyl engine. :-X
Spur .v. helical gears comes to mind re the difference between car (synchromesh helical gears which are smoother and quieter in operation) and bike (spur gears which are tougher but noisier comparably in operation) gearboxes.
Re: Agricultural clunk
Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 3:09 pm
by Steveeung
Mine is a whole heap better in this regard than the K1600 GTL I had previously and that was after they had fixed the shifting 'clack' on the K16's that ended in a court case against BMW in New Zealand and the owner won.
Re: Agricultural clunk
Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 3:59 pm
by guest2360
Steveeung wrote:
Mine is a whole heap better in this regard than the K1600 GTL I had previously and that was after they had fixed the shifting 'clack' on the K16's that ended in a court case against BMW in New Zealand and the owner won.
There is no comparison between the two. It was my main reason for swapping from a GTL. And of course the loss of 100 kg to lug about.
Re: Agricultural clunk
Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 11:02 am
by Sid47
Hmm, sorta reminds me of the Haiku poem I read when researching this problem on my first (1999) RT: "Engage gear. Beneath the sound of breaking rocks. [size=78%]All is well."[/size]
Re: Agricultural clunk
Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 11:06 am
by Sid47
BTW, they've obviously been working on the problem because the 'clunk' is far deeper, crisper and intimidating (for anyone beside you at the lights than the previous models. I wouldn't call it 'agricultural' AO much as 'tuetonic' in the Attila-the-Hun sense!
Re: Agricultural clunk
Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 6:16 pm
by Stevecccc
As Steve F said, same here with my K1300s was horrible clunk into 1st and finding neutral was a chore, my new 2016 RT is a dream come true in finding neutral and going into 1st is smooth with no clunk most of the time, not all the time..
Re: Agricultural clunk
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 8:22 am
by Our Gee
My Honda ST1100 also clonked into first sometimes so it's not an unknown issue but if cars can do it properly, why not bikes?
Syncro ?
Re: Agricultural clunk
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 8:46 am
by guest2360
Yep my car one is silent but then again it's nearly as big as the complete engine in the bike.
Re: Agricultural clunk
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 12:17 pm
by Steve F
Our Gee wrote:
My Honda ST1100 also clonked into first sometimes so it's not an unknown issue but if cars can do it properly, why not bikes?
Syncro ?
As quoted by me earlier in the thread
......"Spur .v. helical gears comes to mind re the difference between car (synchromesh helical gears which are smoother and quieter in operation) and bike (spur gears which are tougher but noisier comparably in operation) gearboxes".
Re: Agricultural clunk
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 5:01 pm
by OrangeOkie
Just read where the new R1200RT has the 1st gear "clunk" fixed. Can anyone confirm?