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Re: Which intercom.... bike to bike....
Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2016 7:14 pm
by guest2360
Not with radios attached I ain't.
Re: Which intercom.... bike to bike....
Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2016 8:53 pm
by fatnfast
I got rid of all my autocom and the associated wire last year and replaced it with the Sena smh5 and the Sena SR10 hub. The SR10 allows a pmr radio to be connected, which is great when I'm instructing if the students dont have Bluetooth.
The PMRs I give to them use rubber over ear earpieces which limits their pain.
It's so much easier to not have to keep plugging in and out as I did with the autocom, with the added bonus of a little soothing background music if I have a 'difficult' trainee ;-).
Re: Which intercom.... bike to bike....
Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2016 8:59 pm
by richardbd
fatnfast wrote:
I got rid of all my autocom and the associated wire last year and replaced it with the Sena smh5 and the Sena SR10 hub. The SR10 allows a pmr radio to be connected, which is great when I'm instructing if the students dont have Bluetooth.
The PMRs I give to them use rubber over ear earpieces which limits their pain.
I've just bought an Intaride BIRD1 bluetooth dongle to connect my PMR to my BMW headset, using a bluetooth PTT button. Lets see what happens...
I have a worry that the bluetooth PTT will probably turn my heated jacket on and the satnav will start talking to guys on other bikes but we'll see!
Re: Which intercom.... bike to bike....
Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 8:15 am
by Dennian
Thanks for your help gentlemen not
Re: Which intercom.... bike to bike....
Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 8:23 am
by guest2360
Why the not. Thought you got lots of advice.
Re: Which intercom.... bike to bike....
Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 9:15 am
by richardbd
RTman10 wrote:
Why the not. Thought you got lots of advice.
+1
plus if you bother to dig around a little on this forum there's enough coverage of this topic to fill several books. Despite that, there is absolutely no consensus on what is the best solution...
Re: Which intercom.... bike to bike....
Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 9:22 am
by guest2360
Being a Bluetooth hating old git who's used the same Autocom unit on my last three bikes I know what's best. As long as you don't want bike to bike .
Re: Which intercom.... bike to bike....
Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 10:46 am
by blokeonthemove
I have Scala Packtalk but I find the instructions are awful, they just keep going on about the cleverness of the system rather than getting going with the basics, as a result I have my venerable Autocom fitted to my '16 RT for use when I ride with my fellow bikers, none of whom are sold on Bluetooth and use BT when with my partner or alone. This means having 2 helmets, they are the same colour so no body knows. I have a Bird1 but that misses some of the conversations over PMR. If anyone who uses BT successfully can tell me what order and channel they have used to pair the Phone/GPS/Bird1 I would be forever in their debt.
Re: Which intercom.... bike to bike....
Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 10:58 am
by guest2360
My point is made
Re: Which intercom.... bike to bike....
Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 3:30 pm
by Casbar
blokeonthemove wrote:
I have Scala Packtalk but I find the instructions are awful, they just keep going on about the cleverness of the system rather than getting going with the basics, as a result I have my venerable Autocom fitted to my '16 RT for use when I ride with my fellow bikers, none of whom are sold on Bluetooth and use BT when with my partner or alone. This means having 2 helmets, they are the same colour so no body knows. I have a Bird1 but that misses some of the conversations over PMR. If anyone who uses BT successfully can tell me what order and channel they have used to pair the Phone/GPS/Bird1 I would be forever in their debt.
Well having used Scala Cardo kit previously I found no issues with the setup or instructions at all.
My mates who use a variety of BT including some with Pactalk also found no issues setting up the Packtalk for bike to bike using DMC and normal BT. As previously stated I have no issues with Autocom, but it wouldn't work for me, as I ride many different bikes, all out blood bikes have sat nav, which we connect to BT headsets so a wired system wouldn't work.
Re: Which intercom.... bike to bike....
Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 3:58 pm
by RTBoy
+1 for the Sena - good bit of kit
Re: Which intercom.... bike to bike....
Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 4:01 pm
by Casbar
RTBoy wrote:
+1 for the Sena - good bit of kit
When I bought the Pactalk, looked at the Sena 20s, but the dealer I get my kit from, had many returned Sena units, looked like they rushed the 20s to market. Whereas no Pactalk returns, so I went for the Cardo kit again.
Re: Which intercom.... bike to bike....
Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 4:27 pm
by richardbd
Casbar wrote:
I have no issues with Autocom, but it wouldn't work for me, as I ride many different bikes, all out blood bikes have sat nav, which we connect to BT headsets so a wired system wouldn't work.
To me that's the main downside of Autocom. Regardless of views on quality and convenience, if you want to use multiple bikes but one helmet, BT is best because the expensive bit lives in/on the helmet. If you want to use multiple helmets but one bike, Autocom is best because the expensive bit lives on the bike and the headsets are cheap.
Re: Which intercom.... bike to bike....
Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 4:32 pm
by guest2360
Correct. One bike, lots of lids got to be Autocom. Also the units are very long lived. I've seen them over 10 yrs old still serviceable. Not sure on the llife span of BT unit stuck on the side of a helmet
Re: Which intercom.... bike to bike....
Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 6:34 pm
by elephant8869
You can use Autocom with lots of bikes (if you have them [emoji16]). I've got an instructors unit which fits in my jacket pocket and has built in Bluetooth to connect to various satnavs and your phone and has rechargeable batteries. I use it when I'm on blood bike duty so that I can talk to the coordinator while on duty and riding. It works very well, is very clear, and batteries will last a full three day shift. I have tried connecting to other Bluetooth rider comms though for bike to bike - not sure if it will do that. The unit only powers up when you plug the headset lead into the autocom