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Re: Gearchange Assist
Posted: Thu May 09, 2019 5:08 pm
by austin1964
2018 bike
Use it from 2nd all the way up but you need to give some throttle, coming down it's lovely all the way....
It's not meant for round town traffic! On the R1250 it is smoother but not much.
Re: Gearchange Assist
Posted: Thu May 09, 2019 5:09 pm
by smileymiley
Use mine all the time, my '17 is far better than the previous '14 I had. That one was very clunky from 3rd upwards & back. My '17 is a lot smoother from 2nd up & down.
Typically only using clutch on moving off or stopping. However I've rode a couple of newer bikes while mine has been having a service etc & they seem to be very much smoother than my RT.
Re: Gearchange Assist
Posted: Thu May 09, 2019 5:39 pm
by Lucky
It does seem that (a) we have differing expectations or (b) different bikes behave differently or (c) some of us are clots.
I suspect it's (c) and I put myself firmly in that category.
Re: Gearchange Assist
Posted: Thu May 09, 2019 7:22 pm
by B787MECH
When I went to buy my new LC I rode two RT test bikes with quickshifters and really couldn’t see the point of it. I actually like the involvement of changing gear and getting the revs right etc. So I specced it without one and don’t regret it at all.
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Re: Gearchange Assist
Posted: Thu May 09, 2019 7:49 pm
by Lucky
There speaks a proper motorcyclist
Re: Gearchange Assist
Posted: Thu May 09, 2019 8:09 pm
by simbo
Got it on my GS, although I'm still getting used to it, it's not something I'd specify on a new bike and wouldn't miss it if it wasn't there. BMW would probably have been better having lessons from the Japanese on how to make gearboxes rather than trying to polish a turd by adding a quick shifter.
Re: Gearchange Assist
Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 6:48 am
by Casbar
Lucky wrote:
There speaks a proper motorcyclist
So personally I've been riding continuously for 45+ years, have been a blood bike volunteer for 4 years, ride in excess of 20,000 miles a year. So interested what actually makes a proper motorcyclist
I have been shifting up without the clutch long before quick shifters and gearshift assist came along. Its like all these extras including ABS and traction control, we never used to have it, but if its there you might as well use it to make like easier, some of the gadgets are even useful in the OH shit moments, but you don't need them.
Re: Gearchange Assist
Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 6:58 am
by PeteM
Casbar wrote:
I have been shifting up without the clutch long before quick shifters and gearshift assist came along. Its like all these extras including ABS and traction control, we never used to have it, but if its there you might as well use it to make like easier, some of the gadgets are even useful in the OH shit moments, but you don't need them.
I'm the same, out of town I have rarely used the clutch for up shifts for years. The gearshift assist is nice in that you don't have to do anything with the throttle. Going down the box I usually use the clutch whether I have assist or not because I can do a smoother shift than the software which I think puts less strain on the transmission and gives a better ride. ABS I would not want to be without to be without despite being happy to deal with a lockup myself after years of off-road riding where it is a fact of life.
Re: Gearchange Assist
Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 7:31 am
by B787MECH
Casbar wrote:
So personally I've been riding continuously for 45+ years, have been a blood bike volunteer for 4 years, ride in excess of 20,000 miles a year. So interested what actually makes a proper motorcyclist
I have been shifting up without the clutch long before quick shifters and gearshift assist came along. Its like all these extras including ABS and traction control, we never used to have it, but if its there you might as well use it to make like easier, some of the gadgets are even useful in the OH shit moments, but you don't need them.
I also have been riding for 45 years and I didn't intend to spark off another episode of "is this or that essential ". It's entirely down to personal preference and approach to motorcycling in general i.e whether you do your own maintenance, how many miles you cover, and how long you intend to keep the bike etc. I agree that ABS is essential and I particularly like the electronic suspension adjustment.
It's seems to me that many (most?) new RT owners don't expect to keep their bikes past the warranty period and don't intend to do their own maintenance which means they don't need to worry about long term reliability of the 'tech' on the bike and can confidently spec the bike up to the max. You should have seen the look on the dealers face when I said I didn't want the quickshifter on my new bike!
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Re: Gearchange Assist
Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 8:21 am
by Casbar
B787MECH wrote:
I also have been riding for 45 years and I didn't intend to spark off another episode of "is this or that essential ". It's entirely down to personal preference and approach to motorcycling in general i.e whether you do your own maintenance, how many miles you cover, and how long you intend to keep the bike etc. I agree that ABS is essential and I particularly like the electronic suspension adjustment.
It's seems to me that many (most?) new RT owners don't expect to keep their bikes past the warranty period and don't intend to do their own maintenance which means they don't need to worry about long term reliability of the 'tech' on the bike and can confidently spec the bike up to the max. You should have seen the look on the dealers face when I said I didn't want the quickshifter on my new bike!
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Yes, not looking for an argument, I remember meeting you on the Pidcock tour and spent a few hours discussing general biking things and how you fitted a DAB radio to your bike, I assume you are the same chap
Re: Gearchange Assist
Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 8:24 am
by B787MECH
No, not me, haven’t been on any Pidcock tours.
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Re: Gearchange Assist
Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 10:41 am
by mondeoman
All down to personal choice, for me I had a 2013 RT with normal g/box and after 4 months of heaving the clutch lever every time to change gear and starting to hurt the top of my left foot thanks to the little gear lever I changed to a 2016 RT with the quick shifter, it's great and I wouldn't go back to a 1920's technology gearbox
Re: Gearchange Assist
Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 2:29 pm
by Lucky
I admit my 'real biker' comment was a tease.
We all have our likes and dislikes, and as I get older I am more questioning about some of the bling we are offered.
Take chrome header pipes. Theres nothing new here but why do they exist? I'm happier with stainless steel, some wire wool and a little Solvo. Then I don't get annoyed if a little oil gets splashed and spoils the finish.
Each their own, of course.
Re: Gearchange Assist
Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 3:12 pm
by Graham88
Hmm, the blueing of chrome looks a lot better than the faux rust of stainless
Re: Gearchange Assist
Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 3:32 pm
by Sprintgull
I really like the quickshifter. The benefit can really be felt at the end of a 500 mile day on UK roads, no aching left hand and wrist. Just makes things easier.