Bmw RT 1250 Agility

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Re: Bmw RT 1250 Agility

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David. wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2023 10:18 pm Does a steering damper help or hinder the agility of a motorcycle.

Neither, you wouldn't even know it's there. It's more for high speed straight line stability.
The GS 'is' the better bike :-)
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The Camhead must be more stable than the 1250 as it doesn't have a steering damper fitted.
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David. wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 8:35 pm The Camhead must be more stable than the 1250 as it doesn't have a steering damper fitted.
Did they even have steering dampers when they made the camheads?
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David. wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 8:35 pm The Camhead must be more stable than the 1250 as it doesn't have a steering damper fitted.
The Camhead doesn't have enough power to warrant a steering damper :lol:
The GS 'is' the better bike :-)
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BoB21 wrote: Fri Jun 19, 2020 2:34 pmThe GS was designed without only put on because of incident.
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David. wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 9:54 pm
David was that quote from another thread?
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Up hill 180 degree bends… my 1250 will loose power on occasion with that scenario, bmw obviously think you maybe falling off or in difficulty and the sensors cut power but this is more likely to cause a fall imo !.
I had a software update which apparently lessened the effect and I also replaced the bank angle sensor for good measure, that helped but I did have it occur again once with the wife on board.
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An honest sensible reply from Panman which may help to answer the OP question.
Dlg wrote: Mon Jul 17, 2023 12:53 pmIs the new 1250 RT more agile than my 2010 RT 1200.
Especially in 180 degree tight uphill hairpin bends.
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Panman40 wrote: Sat Jul 22, 2023 7:50 am Up hill 180 degree bends… my 1250 will loose power on occasion with that scenario
Your not losing traction are you?

I had it the other day on a tight uphill but it was the traction control that came on

First time since owning the bike its come on without the wheels leaveing the road :lol:

It was very wet and I think I hit a drain cover or something
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In this scenario, the rider aids would seem to be counterproductive.
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David. wrote: Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:41 am In this scenario, the rider aids would seem to be counterproductive.
Why?
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The scenario being referred to is that which Panman has highlighted.

IMO, loss of engine power be that because of lean/bank angle sensor or traction control is not good when executing 180 degree tight uphill hairpin bends.
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David. wrote: Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:22 am An honest sensible reply from Panman which may help to answer the OP
So every other answer has been dishonest and ridiculous has it??

You've probably never riden the modern RT but yet you pick up on the one negative comment, reference the 1250.
I also had that senerio happen to me on my 2019 RT but I knew it was my riding style that would cause it. In 1st gear and a little aggressive on the throttle pulling it out of the bend, you could get the TC cutting in causing the power to intermittently cut out My latest RT doesn't and hasn't done it on any tight 180° corners and rider aims only kick in if the front wheel starts to lift.
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The traction control can be switched off.

Can the lean/bank angle sensor be immobilised.
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David. wrote: Sat Jul 22, 2023 10:09 am The scenario being referred to is that which Panman has highlighted.

IMO, loss of engine power be that because of lean/bank angle sensor or traction control is not good when executing 180 degree tight uphill hairpin bends.
Agreed, when It happened to me the first time if I hadn’t had my witts about me I could of fallen, a tight ish left or right hander on a steep incline used to set it off, I could open the throttle fully and it would just surge and keep its same momentum, imo if loaded with a pillion etc with traffic around I’d rather be in control of the throttle!. It’s definitely improved 90% after fitting the replacement sensor and the software update, unfortunately I fitted the sensor at the same time as the update so no idea which helped the most.
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