Stebel replacement horn
Stebel replacement horn
I want to fit my Stebel Nautilus horn that I had on my previous bike.
I know that I can't just connect it to the original horn wiring because the current drain is greater than the OEM horn.
I was thinking of connecting the original two wires to a relay, run a direct, fused, lead from the battery to the relay and then from the relay to the Nautilus. I know that I have to make a bracket to position the horn.
Now the problem, I have been told that unless the power drain from the relay is the same as the original horn, the CanBus will detect a "fault".
Is that correct or will my original plane work? I need to change the horn pdq as I like the safety and effect that sounding a "proper" horn has on errant drivers.
Thanks
P.S. Love the RT. ;D
After 12 years of Honda V4s it makes a refreshing change.
I know that I can't just connect it to the original horn wiring because the current drain is greater than the OEM horn.
I was thinking of connecting the original two wires to a relay, run a direct, fused, lead from the battery to the relay and then from the relay to the Nautilus. I know that I have to make a bracket to position the horn.
Now the problem, I have been told that unless the power drain from the relay is the same as the original horn, the CanBus will detect a "fault".
Is that correct or will my original plane work? I need to change the horn pdq as I like the safety and effect that sounding a "proper" horn has on errant drivers.
Thanks
P.S. Love the RT. ;D
After 12 years of Honda V4s it makes a refreshing change.
Re: Stebel replacement horn
Hi Barry I had a Stebel Magnum horn (provided by me) fitted to my LC at Motorrad North Oxford today and it works fine. It draws about 6A. I'm told of you fit twins you would need a relay. No one mentioned Canbus problems.
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Re: Stebel replacement horn
Can the stebel magnum horn be fitted on the existing wires then?
The standard horn on the LC is pathetic. I'm embarrassed to use it.
The standard horn on the LC is pathetic. I'm embarrassed to use it.
Re: Stebel replacement horn
Thanks, I think I'll check the current drain with the existing horn and the Steibel. That should give me an idea whether I need to fit a relay or not.
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Re: Stebel replacement horn
Barry's this may be of some help http://www.motorcycleparts-hornig.com/B ... -Horn.html
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Re: Stebel replacement horn
And another that leads you down some other places
http://bmwsporttouring.com/ubbthreads/u ... ber=916360
http://bmwsporttouring.com/ubbthreads/u ... ber=916360
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Re: Stebel replacement horn
Spencert231 wrote: And another that leads you down some other places
http://bmwsporttouring.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=916360
Obviously with a bit of time on my hands also came across this http://www.bmwlt.com/forums/rt-series/7 ... stuff.html
Re: Stebel replacement horn
Chad yes the single magnum horn can. The dual version needs a relay so will probably also have a heavier guage feed but I'm not sure. The single definitely works on existing wiring but a change of connector (twin spade connectors needed for the magnum).
RT LE, San Marino Blue, Cee Bailey Screen, Nav IV, Hornig horn, Aux Lights, Michelin Pilot Road 4GT, Crud Deflector, Fender Ext
Re: Stebel replacement horn
Just replaced the Stiebel Magnum horn with the following on my LE - fantastic difference - frightens car drivers!
http://www.motorcycleparts-hornig.com/B ... -Horn.html
1x 11690120 - Nautilus Horn
Price: 43,80 EUR / Total: 43,80 EUR
1x 1169012R12RTLC - Mounting and wiring
Price: 49,60 EUR / Total: 49,60 EUR
Shipping costs: 13,90 EUR
Don't order the bigger version - it wont physically fit
http://www.motorcycleparts-hornig.com/B ... -Horn.html
1x 11690120 - Nautilus Horn
Price: 43,80 EUR / Total: 43,80 EUR
1x 1169012R12RTLC - Mounting and wiring
Price: 49,60 EUR / Total: 49,60 EUR
Shipping costs: 13,90 EUR
Don't order the bigger version - it wont physically fit
Last edited by Steveeung on Thu Jul 09, 2015 10:52 am, edited 1 time in total.
RT LE, San Marino Blue, Cee Bailey Screen, Nav IV, Hornig horn, Aux Lights, Michelin Pilot Road 4GT, Crud Deflector, Fender Ext
Re: Stebel replacement horn
I too was looking to re-use my old Stebel Nautilus and install it on the RT LC.
After reviewing the options, I conceded and acquired a new Hornig kit that included the mounting hardware and relay. Aside from being short an in-line fuse, the kit was very appreciated. It included install instructions with photos.
I ended up wiring up to a 20 amp circuit on a PDM60 (power distribution module). The fit was tight and for me took some patience to un-bolt the old horn as well as figure out what I thought would be best hide the wires.
After reviewing the options, I conceded and acquired a new Hornig kit that included the mounting hardware and relay. Aside from being short an in-line fuse, the kit was very appreciated. It included install instructions with photos.
I ended up wiring up to a 20 amp circuit on a PDM60 (power distribution module). The fit was tight and for me took some patience to un-bolt the old horn as well as figure out what I thought would be best hide the wires.
Re: Stebel replacement horn
Are you saying the fuse was missing from its holder or the kit came without any inline fuse or holder i.e. not part of the design?
RT LE, San Marino Blue, Cee Bailey Screen, Nav IV, Hornig horn, Aux Lights, Michelin Pilot Road 4GT, Crud Deflector, Fender Ext
Re: Stebel replacement horn
Steveeung wrote: Are you saying the fuse was missing from its holder or the kit came without any inline fuse or holder i.e. not part of the design?
It's the latter. The kit I acquired didn't include an in-line fuse holder which seems appropriate for the setup.
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Re: Stebel replacement horn
Hi Barry,
I know I'm way late to this discussion and you have probably figured out your preferred hook up. The way you originally wrote it up, there would be no CAN-BUS involvement. Just as an aside, if you can find a 2 piece horn (sound bomb) it is generally much easier to install in tight spaces. Additionally, having the tubing running from compressor to horn allows for a bit of delay when first hitting the horn button. The delay is determined by tube length and can be adjusted by shortening it. This is only applicable if you want to keep the Beep-Beep stock horn as well. I understand that if you use power from the stock horn to the Stebel relay, the CAN-BUS won't care. I will let you know within a few weeks, when I get to wire mine.
Stay safe,
I know I'm way late to this discussion and you have probably figured out your preferred hook up. The way you originally wrote it up, there would be no CAN-BUS involvement. Just as an aside, if you can find a 2 piece horn (sound bomb) it is generally much easier to install in tight spaces. Additionally, having the tubing running from compressor to horn allows for a bit of delay when first hitting the horn button. The delay is determined by tube length and can be adjusted by shortening it. This is only applicable if you want to keep the Beep-Beep stock horn as well. I understand that if you use power from the stock horn to the Stebel relay, the CAN-BUS won't care. I will let you know within a few weeks, when I get to wire mine.
Stay safe,
Oh the places we will go
Re: Stebel replacement horn
Yes, not a problem. I recently fitted the Magnum horn on my 2015 RT, and mounted it exactly where the OEM pip squeaker was fitted. I already had a can bus wiring loom adapter (from Nippy Normans) which just plugs straight in the bike's horn connector. Very straightforward and works a treat.Chad wrote: Can the stebel magnum horn be fitted on the existing wires then?
The standard horn on the LC is pathetic. I'm embarrassed to use it.
Re: Stebel replacement horn
SteveF
Can you supply us with the model number of your installed horn
I bought the horning kit that was supposed to fit the 15 model, after many conversations with Sierra Bmw
Including pictures, it was agreed it wouldn't fit
Would love a straight replacement
Thanks
Jim
Can you supply us with the model number of your installed horn
I bought the horning kit that was supposed to fit the 15 model, after many conversations with Sierra Bmw
Including pictures, it was agreed it wouldn't fit
Would love a straight replacement
Thanks
Jim
Jim