Removal of all problem systems...
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Removal of all problem systems...
Has anyone yet embarked upon a quest to make the R1200RT more like an Airhead to work on? I feel that removing all this BMW nonsense and starting with off-the-shelf systems would make the bike much friendlierto work on.
Do I need to adjust my suspension electronically? NO.
Do I need the constant errors on my dash disabling other functions on my bike? NO
Do I need a display that displays nonsensical symbols but requires a computer to connect to diagnose same? NO
Do I need a flashing warning to say I have a blown lamp... NO
Do I need a radio and speakers to annoy other people? NO
Do I need a computer running my engine? Well as it is much less powerful than my 1980 GSX1100 i would have to say "why bother?" A decent kit version transistor assisted ignition would suffice and be repairable by me.
Do I need a bike that can't be changed easily to LED bulbs? NO
Do I need a computer that has functions that can't be overridden by me? NO
I guess I just don't need a BMW... I should have rebuilt a 1990's Moto Guzzi. Bugger. Too late? Anyone want a camhead that intermittently throws an ABS warning? I didn't think so
Do I need to adjust my suspension electronically? NO.
Do I need the constant errors on my dash disabling other functions on my bike? NO
Do I need a display that displays nonsensical symbols but requires a computer to connect to diagnose same? NO
Do I need a flashing warning to say I have a blown lamp... NO
Do I need a radio and speakers to annoy other people? NO
Do I need a computer running my engine? Well as it is much less powerful than my 1980 GSX1100 i would have to say "why bother?" A decent kit version transistor assisted ignition would suffice and be repairable by me.
Do I need a bike that can't be changed easily to LED bulbs? NO
Do I need a computer that has functions that can't be overridden by me? NO
I guess I just don't need a BMW... I should have rebuilt a 1990's Moto Guzzi. Bugger. Too late? Anyone want a camhead that intermittently throws an ABS warning? I didn't think so
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Re: Removal of all problem systems...
Perhaps fix the problem and enjoy the ride.
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Re: Removal of all problem systems...
I agree with you. Most of the time a simple warning bulb would cover faults just like my old R80RT. Bikes have got too technical over the years but it's what people ask for. Rider modes why? i have a right hand for that. All this tech also makes you lazy. Ie like tye pressure checks, oil level, etc. If i could find a mint low mileage R100/80RT i would jump at it. Simply to fix and my favorite CarbsMarvin2Shoes wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 12:25 pm Has anyone yet embarked upon a quest to make the R1200RT more like an Airhead to work on? I feel that removing all this BMW nonsense and starting with off-the-shelf systems would make the bike much friendlierto work on.
Do I need to adjust my suspension electronically? NO.
Do I need the constant errors on my dash disabling other functions on my bike? NO
Do I need a display that displays nonsensical symbols but requires a computer to connect to diagnose same? NO
Do I need a flashing warning to say I have a blown lamp... NO
Do I need a radio and speakers to annoy other people? NO
Do I need a computer running my engine? Well as it is much less powerful than my 1980 GSX1100 i would have to say "why bother?" A decent kit version transistor assisted ignition would suffice and be repairable by me.
Do I need a bike that can't be changed easily to LED bulbs? NO
Do I need a computer that has functions that can't be overridden by me? NO
I guess I just don't need a BMW... I should have rebuilt a 1990's Moto Guzzi. Bugger. Too late? Anyone want a camhead that intermittently throws an ABS warning? I didn't think so
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Re: Removal of all problem systems...
Just my humble opinion here, but perhaps in some ways all of the new technology has made some of use worse drivers. Personally, I am fond of manual transmissions in all of my vehicles and believe that it has the tendency to make some drivers more attentive and connected.
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Re: Removal of all problem systems...
Manual gearbox - one way to change gears with the lever.Corker203 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 2:29 pm Just my humble opinion here, but perhaps in some ways all of the new technology has made some of use worse drivers. Personally, I am fond of manual transmissions in all of my vehicles and believe that it has the tendency to make some drivers more attentive and connected.
My automatic - I can change gears by
a) use steering wheel paddles
b) using sport mode to alter change up and change down points
c) using manual mode on the gear selector to hold a particular gear.
d) using kickdown
I'm happy enough with manual gears on the bike but would not have a manual car.
While manual gears do tend to make some car drivers more attentive and connected, it makes a lot of them worse.
Furthermore very few drivers who learnt on a manual before buying an automatic ever get training on how to use an auto gearbox.
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Re: Removal of all problem systems...
Er... That's problems... Plural. The ABS light has just been the straw that broke the camels back. Oh... that and having to pay for proper BMW badges as the fairing had very boring silver discs attached that interestingly had all the same mould markings as the new bmw blue & white ones.
It only cost AU$148 for the privilege.
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Re: Removal of all problem systems...
It must be a country thing. My 2007 has blue and white roundels on the side of the fairing. Never seen the silver discs have you a picture of them?Marvin2Shoes wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 9:23 am Er... That's problems... Plural. The ABS light has just been the straw that broke the camels back. Oh... that and having to pay for proper BMW badges as the fairing had very boring silver discs attached that interestingly had all the same mould markings as the new bmw blue & white ones.
It only cost AU$148 for the privilege.
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Re: Removal of all problem systems...
R1100s was very sensitive to battery condition and if battery was not in top order ABS light was flickering although there was no actual fault.
Do R1200s possess this same behaviour?
Do R1200s possess this same behaviour?
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Re: Removal of all problem systems...
A bad battery can affect the ABS on R1200RT. When i got my bike, the battery wouldn't hold its charge and my ABS light would flash until the alternator chucked power into it. As soon as it had over 12v and i restarted the bike the ABS lamp would go out as normal. Not sure if it was just my bike or if this is common.
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Re: Removal of all problem systems...
As requested. Upside down unfortunately. Front and back of badge shown:
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Re: Removal of all problem systems...
If I search with BMW and that part number 7721222 it shows numerous typical colored BMW emblems like this:
Maybe yours has been cleaned of coating or it has become loose otherwise?
https://www.lllparts.co.uk/product/51147721222/plaque
Maybe yours has been cleaned of coating or it has become loose otherwise?
https://www.lllparts.co.uk/product/51147721222/plaque
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Re: Removal of all problem systems...
Looks like someone has peeled the sticker off the front. As i said never seen a silver one like in your picture
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Re: Removal of all problem systems...
If it had anything peeled off it then why is "BMW" moulded into the surface.... You'd expect it to be a flat silver disk for a sticker to adhere to? Very odd.
Also... my rant about the bike above... I should make it clear.: I absolutely love the engine and suspension and handling. I'd be totally happy to lose all the electronic rubbish though. The bits that are good - cruise control and windscreen adjustment - can exist without all the other nonsense. I don't need to adjust my suspension with a button or have my braking system govern if I'm able to set my cruise control.
Also... my rant about the bike above... I should make it clear.: I absolutely love the engine and suspension and handling. I'd be totally happy to lose all the electronic rubbish though. The bits that are good - cruise control and windscreen adjustment - can exist without all the other nonsense. I don't need to adjust my suspension with a button or have my braking system govern if I'm able to set my cruise control.
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