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No anti-drain back valve !

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2024 8:14 pm
by Shuswaper
Ya gotta be kidding me...after doing much research on oil filters for my '23 RT, I purchased 2 Mahle OC 619s, "OEM" quality made in Austria oil filters from Amazon.
How the hell is this filter suppose to be the correct replacement for the BMW filters, when there is no anti-drain valve for a side mounted installation ?
Someone want to clue me in ?! :o

Re: No anti-drain back valve !

Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2024 2:34 am
by David.
Has the Mahle filter been compared with a BMW OEM filter (made by Mahle).

Re: No anti-drain back valve !

Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2024 3:58 am
by Shuswaper
Not yet, I do not have one loose to compare with.

Re: No anti-drain back valve !

Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2024 5:32 am
by David.
If it gives you any confidence to use the Mahle filter, I have it in writing from BMW Insured Warranty that both Mahle & Hiflo oil filters are acceptable to use as they are both manufactured to the BMW OEM specifications. I've used both on my 2012 Camhead, supplied by myself and fitted by a BMW dealer.

Oil Filters - OEM or Mahle/Hiflo, viewtopic.php?t=1521&hilit=mahle

Re: No anti-drain back valve !

Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2024 1:29 pm
by Doctor T
BMW oil filter is a Mahle filter just rebranded for BMW.
I've only used HI-Flow for years. I used to use K&N but the last 2 developed a leak just under the tightening nut.

Re: No anti-drain back valve !

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2024 1:11 am
by Shuswaper
Okay, I have since learned the oil filter doesn't need a backflow check valve, reason being, the oil level in the sump reservoir is higher than the bottom of the filter thus preventing oil from running out of the filter back into the crankcase. At least, that's what I have been led to believe....perhaps still questionable?

So, the question is moot at this point, whether its Mahle, BMW or other brands !

Thanks for your replies gents.

Re: No anti-drain back valve !

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2024 7:00 am
by David.
Doctor T wrote: Sun Jul 28, 2024 1:29 pmBMW oil filter is a Mahle filter just rebranded for BMW.
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Re: No anti-drain back valve !

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2024 7:04 am
by David.
Doctor T wrote: Sun Jul 28, 2024 1:29 pmI've only used Hiflo for years.
Me too, supplied by myself, fitted by a BMW dealer, inc. Castrol engine oil & Liqui Moly gearbox/final drive oil.

Oil & Filter.JPG
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Hiflo.JPG (165.43 KiB) Viewed 1953 times

Re: No anti-drain back valve !

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2024 7:47 am
by David.
More info. on this at BMWSportTouring, https://www.bmwsporttouring.com/topic/1 ... ack-valve/

Re: No anti-drain back valve !

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2024 4:36 pm
by Doctor T
For my years in engineering I've found if the oil filter is below or level with the sump as on a Hex head there is no valve needed. That changes when you get to higher side mounted filters. This is where a valve is needed.