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Bar Risers
Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2024 4:52 pm
by k9doc
Just fitted Hornig bar risers to my 2013 TC. According to their blurb, no mods to hoses/cables are necessary. The brake hose on full left lock feels tighter than is comfortable to me but what do I know. All seems fine on the road but it's now a worm in my head. Anyone else who has fitted them, and more mechanically minded, have any experience or advice they care to share. The hose isn't rock solid taut, but has very little additional movement on full lock. TIA.
https://www.motorcycleparts-hornig.com/ ... isers.html
Re: Bar Risers
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2024 9:29 am
by SimonD
That's interesting, I might have tried these next.
I've just fitted some of the cheap Ali Express ones that move the bars up and back. The brake hose is definitely being stretched on full left lock. They'll be coming straight off later today.
Re: Bar Risers
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2024 11:40 am
by jesim1
How often is the bike on full left lock?
I've had lots of risers over the years, and TBH, I've never heard of a single incident being attributed to them pulling a cable
Go with your gut, if your concerned then it's an issue, perhaps see if the cables can be drawn through just a half inch from somewhere else, or does one cable sit on top of another and it can be reversed?
Re: Bar Risers
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2024 12:35 pm
by SimonD
What have bar risers on other bikes got to do with this situation?
I have risers on other bikes and they are fine. On this bike in this situation they are not. The hose is about a foot long and there is no slack.
I guess if you have a cut in your tyre on the left hand side you weigh up how often you turn left before considering whether to change it or not.
.....and in answer to your question the bike is on full left lock every time I take it out of my garage to turn it around and again every time I put the steering lock on. That's before considering tight manoeuvring in traffic and car parks.
Re: Bar Risers
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2024 2:34 pm
by k9doc
I had initial thoughts about removing the risers but then presumed that if they had been approved for use in Germany then all should be well, and Hornig stipulate in writing that longer lines/hoses are not necessary. I also (like jesim1) asked myself how often the bike is on full left lock other than manoeuvring out of garage, and even then don't need to turn to the limit. I do turn the bars to the right though when engaging steering lock. Long and short... left them on and just enjoy the ride.
Re: Bar Risers
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2024 7:08 pm
by jesim1
SimonD wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 12:35 pm
What have bar risers on other bikes got to do with this situation?
I have risers on other bikes and they are fine. On this bike in this situation they are not. The hose is about a foot long and there is no slack.
I guess if you have a cut in your tyre on the left hand side you weigh up how often you turn left before considering whether to change it or not.
.....and in answer to your question the bike is on full left lock every time I take it out of my garage to turn it around and again every time I put the steering lock on. That's before considering tight manoeuvring in traffic and car parks.
Sounds like you have made up your mind - why did you go on an open forum and ask for advice if your just going to shoot people down
Here are mine on my current RT and they are fine:
Re: Bar Risers
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2024 11:36 pm
by SimonD
jesim1 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 7:08 pm
Sounds like you have made up your mind - why did you go on an open forum and ask for advice if your just going to shoot people down
Here are mine on my current RT and they are fine:
I did not ask for advice, I was merely relaying my experience yesterday of similar risers on the same bike. The only shooting down was done by you.
You ask "how often is the bike on full lock". The answer to that is surely meaningless unless you know how many times you can stretch a brake hose before it fails.
I'm very happy that you are satisfied with your risers but they are neither the same risers or the same bike as those of the OP. If you have ever made brake lines you might wonder how many times you can pull on them with a long lever before they start to fatigue.
Re: Bar Risers
Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:18 am
by SimonD
Anyway, apologies to k9doc for bickering on your thread.
Those Hornig risers look like they are much better quality than the ones I fitted and I think the 25mm up would put less stress on the brake line than mine which are 18mm up and about 16mm back.
Re: Bar Risers
Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2024 4:56 pm
by k9doc
^^^^
No problem.
They do make quite a difference turning real bad backache into only just noticeable backache, so all told, worth it I think.
There is an extender for clutch/brake lines for the LC bikes but that's not much use to us.
https://www.nippynormans.com/r1200r-lc- ... lutch-line
Re: Bar Risers
Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2024 7:41 am
by EasyRider
When i fitted the GS bars to my RT with bar risers, i found that the brakeline was at its max on full left lock.
I found this little extender that works very well, and its cheap to.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004 ... ry_from%3A
Re: Bar Risers
Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2024 9:06 am
by k9doc
Thanks for the info. Is this fitted to your LC bike? Not sure it would work on my TC as there doesn't appear to be the space for it. I'm no bike mechanic so happy to be corrected.
Re: Bar Risers
Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2024 10:54 am
by EasyRider
This is it fitted to my 2019 RT with GS handlebars.
Its not that big, but it gives enough slack in the brakeline on full left lock.
Re: Bar Risers
Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2024 1:43 pm
by k9doc
The line on my bike is mounted horizontally, but could still work. Will depend if the neck bit on the extender will fit in the notch in the housing. Worth a punt anyroadup @ £7 delivered. Thanks for the heads up.
Re: Bar Risers
Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2024 3:12 pm
by EasyRider
one thing i did do was put a little bit of lock tight on the allen bolt at the end. better safe than sorry.
Re: Bar Risers
Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2024 8:12 pm
by SimonD
Just found this on ebay:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/145621902095
Might work on older bikes better. You can probably get a new hose for £30 though.